2005年05月12日 (木曜日)

XML Talk with Tim Bray

Tim BrayToday, I had a talk with Tim Bray regarding XML and related stuff in Tokyo. This was organized by thanks to ITmedia Enterprise, one of major Web magazines in Japan.

It is about 2 years since I saw Tim last time – we had very good Sake dinner with Makoto Murata who is also one of the authors of XML. We started from Tim's recent job at Sun and went through several XML-related topics. It was very interesting, however I don’t write details here because it will be posted on IT Media as an article ;-)

One of the topics I brought up today was about “The Loyal WS-Opposition” that Tim wrote in his blog last fall. In the essay, he worried about the complexity and volume of WS-* specifications. Today, he expressed again that “simplicity” was very important for any technology can be real standard in the field. And it was the reason that he supports the simple Web messaging methods like REST, RSS etc.

"Do you think simple Web messaging and WS-Specifications are competing each other?”, I dared to ask and him. “I think they can coexist, since most of middleware such as ASTERIA (our product :-) support both of simple Web messaging and Web Services, and user can choose suitable messaging method according to the purpose of the communication.” Then he asked me back which way I would choose if there were same functionalities available through both methods. My answer was "I will choose simple one". He pointed out the problem which was that there were many people trying to adopt Web Services even for simple things. I agree with the point. Yet, not only Web Services but also many other information technologies, IT vendors would make simple things complicated.

Large AACOne more insider topic; I mentioned his "Search" essay and wanted to know if he had any idea searching Large Ascii Art Letters (fig.), which is sometimes seen in Japanese contents on the internet. They are made up of characters, but they cannot be searched by the meanings. I actually had a difficulty in searching this example. Tim had no idea for that and concluded that the information publishers are responsible for describing the the data (in this case adding meta data).

Posted by Pina Hirano at 2005年05月12日 22:38 | トラックバック はてなブックマーク - XML Talk with Tim Bray このエントリーを含むはてなブックマーク
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